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 Post subject: Legal .22lr soda bottle suppressor adapter.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:43 pm 
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Hey guys, I'm sure everyones seen or heard of the plastic soda bottle/shaving cream suppressor, and was wondering if simply dilling/tapping a short piece of metal, engraving it with your info, drilling the cap of a soda bottle and pinching it between the adapter and barrel would be a legal way to play around with soda bottle suppressors.

I know you'd get questioned pretty quickly if at a public range using one of these, but it could be neat to have a legit version around.

Just curious


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:55 pm 
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Havent you looked in the picture gallery ???
A adapter for PET bottles alredy exists :D



http://www.silencertests.com/gallery/Im ... petadapter

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:12 pm 
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How do you get one of those great little devices?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:37 pm 
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I believe its an nfa violation as it would be considered part of an unregistered silencer.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:42 pm 
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What if you registered it as a silencer?


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how could it be a violation you can go on the internet and buy the ASAP adapter for the EVO9 and for the gemtech trinity which are kind of the same.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:35 pm 
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I'm saying if you use an approved form-1 for a .22 can to make one, the metal part that threads to the barrel would be engraved with the registration info, I think you could use the threads on the barrel cap instead of figuring out how to machine the bottle threads. This would also let you try smaller or larger bottles, much like changing the wipes.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:33 am 
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There was already a thread relating to this:
http://www.silencertests.com/forum/view ... pop+bottle

Seems like you would not have to register the adapter but each bottle, since it is legally a silencer.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:40 am 
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The adapter is registered as the SUPPRESSOR

NO KIDDIN'
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:45 am 
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So is the adaptor the "suppressor," or is each bottle?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:58 am 
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From what I have understood, the adapter is the registerd peice, and the soda bottles are treated like wipes, in that they can be replaced.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:15 am 
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So is it still possible to find somthing like this adaptor somewhere?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:07 am 
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I'm not worried about finding one, I have a lathe, a 1/2-28 tap, material, and an approved form-1 in hand.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:15 pm 
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Soda bottle caps aren't very strong. I think you would run the risk of having the cap break when the gun attempts to "shoot" the bottle off of the barrel. Perhaps you're better off figuring out how to make the adapter thread directly to the bottle. That promises to be much more durable and you'll likely avoid having a registered $200 bottle cap remover.


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Just use a laser bore sighter to locate the exit hole in the bottle & glue a wipe in place.

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Nothing says "cool" like a plastic pop bottle of generic diet soda stuck on the end of your barrel.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:30 pm 
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If class 2 mfg's are allowed to 'repair' and 'upgrade' a can using the same serial number/tax stamp, why can't an individual? When the stamp is paid for and approved I would expect to have the same rights to work on my creation as any other mfg.


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I see no reason that replacing the soda bottle would not be the same as replacing wipes in an older MAC can.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:38 pm 
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Why not ask the BATFE NFA tech branch?


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rockpup wrote:
If class 2 mfg's are allowed to 'repair' and 'upgrade' a can using the same serial number/tax stamp, why can't an individual? When the stamp is paid for and approved I would expect to have the same rights to work on my creation as any other mfg.


Because a manuf. license is just that a manuf. license.

A form 1 is a permit to manuf. one firearm, one firearm not a blanket permit to keep manuf. one firearm over and over and over again untill you get it right.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:06 pm 
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rockpup wrote:
If class 2 mfg's are allowed to 'repair' and 'upgrade' a can using the same serial number/tax stamp, why can't an individual? When the stamp is paid for and approved I would expect to have the same rights to work on my creation as any other mfg.


Do you not know what the definition of 'mum' is? Here, try this: put your lips together like you just superglued them or licked a stopsign post on a very very cold Alaskan winter day. Now, say 'mum'. Whats it sound like? MmmM. What? MmmM. What?? I can't understand you. Speak English..can you speak N-glish? Doing it under the cover of a toolshed also helps any prying eyes. Especially Kilroy. You know--that guy that has a great big nose like squidward and hangs around the tops of walls with his 2 hands?


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rockpup wrote:
If class 2 mfg's are allowed to 'repair' and 'upgrade' a can using the same serial number/tax stamp, why can't an individual? When the stamp is paid for and approved I would expect to have the same rights to work on my creation as any other mfg.


Do you not know what the definition of 'mum' is? Here, try this: put your lips together like you just superglued them or licked a stopsign post on a very very cold Alaskan winter day. Now, say 'mum'. Whats it sound like? MmmM. What? MmmM. What?? I can't understand you. Speak English..can you speak N-glish?


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I have going to do this for a while now. Anyone know the thread on the plastic bottles?

Thanks,
Dave


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http://www.silencertests.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1291


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:18 am 
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David Hineline wrote:
Because a manuf. license is just that a manuf. license.

A form 1 is a permit to manuf. one firearm, one firearm not a blanket permit to keep manuf. one firearm over and over and over again untill you get it right.


Ok, I can see that, but does that mean that an individual cannot repair a form-1 can if it is damaged?

If I


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